What dreams may come

Saturday, March 21st, 2009 03:13 pm
tsaiko: Gif of a lemming falling off an edge (yaoi)
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I have been reading a lot of ebooks and original yaoi stories lately. One of the things that annoys me is the "Insta-love" plot. "I've known this guy for a whole three hours and I feel this intense, emotional bond with him." This is especially bad when the entire conversation has consisted of "Do you need a ride?" "Yep. Thanks a lot." *drive awhile* "Want some coffee?" "Sure." I'm sorry, that is not emotional bonding conversation. I'll believe that they have the hots for each other with that, but not a deep emotional bond. And they should not be thinking of spending their lives together forever and evah!

Obviously, I was more annoyed at this than I thought, because my subconscious gave me a dream plot that explains this.



It was a sci-fi dream with two guys. My mind kept insisting that one of the guys was Korean, even though he was from another planet so we'll call him Kay. The other guy was named Lewis.

Now, some background. Kay was from a alien race that bonded with someone for life. When you were young, you could be forcefully bonded to someone but as you got older, that became impossible. Bonding to someone meant you had feelings for them, wanted them, and would do your best to please them. And you hoped like hell the person you were bonded to cared about your feelings, otherwise you were SOL. So it was a big decision that people from this world put a lot of thought into.

When Kay was about eleven (which was skeevy even in my dreams), he was kidnapped and bonded to a noble of another planet. Luckily, the noble in question was about twelve so their whole bonding ceremony involved them kissing briefly and then standing awkwardly around. They were only together for about five days and really just tried to be friends. After five days, everything went into the toilet. There was a brutal uprising on the planet. Most of the nobility was killed and the capital city was pretty much burned to the ground. Kay managed to escape on a transport ship and after a few months of living hand to mouth, made it home.

In addition, Kay was in a lot of pain because the bonding was... well, not broken so much as forced dormant. It's actually painful for someone who is bonded to another to be away from their bonded for extended periods of time (say a day or two). The whole thing left a bad taste in Kay's mouth and he vowed to never bond with anyone again.

Years later, Kay is in his early twenties and working at a gym. One day this guy comes in and Kay is just immediately attracted to him like he's never been before. His reaction is so out of character that he's really wondering what is going on.

Three guesses who this guy is? If you said the noble he was bonded to all those years ago, you'd be correct. After the coup on his home planet, Lewis managed to escape by pretending to be someone else. He made it to another planet where he was granted political asylum and has lived a relatively uneventful and normal life since. Lewis barely remembers that he was ever bonded and just figured that the boy he knew years ago died.

So Lewis (who is the world's biggest woobie) is shyly flirting with this guy behind the counter and the guy is heavily flirting back. Which does a lot of Lewis's self esteem. Meanwhile, Kay is flirting with this guy and wondering why he has the raging hots for this guy. Kay is mentally telling himself that he does not need to get involved with anyone, when Lewis asks him out. Of course, before he can even think about it, he says yes. XD



Alas, I woke up before it went any further. But LOL, that plot.

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Date: 3/21/09 08:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dameange.livejournal.com
that makes complete and total sense. you should totally write it. and also, I thoroughly agree with your opinion on the insta-love thing. {rolls eyes} it worked fine when I was ten and prince phillip and rose were the hottest otp out there but seriously, if I'm gonna pay money or spend actual time reading it, I want it to make sense.

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Date: 3/21/09 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsaiko.livejournal.com
Or if it doesn't make sense, at least let it be believable (which sounds strange, but I've read a lot of things that don't make sense but the author made me believe they were possible). Heck, I'd settle for either the characters being believable or the plot being believable. Most times I don't get either.

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Date: 3/22/09 03:03 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dameange.livejournal.com
No, no, I thoroughly agree! If its believable I will totally suspend disbelief and go with it. But I can only suspend so much, right?

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Date: 3/21/09 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animeartistjo.livejournal.com
Insta-love sounds like something cheesy to be sold in late-night infomercials where the salespeople are inhumanly upbeat and positive about it. XD Or you know, something you can stick in the microwave and then eat for breakfast.

But that dream? That's totally a drabble right there and you should totally extend it some more. *melts into pile of romantic mush*

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Date: 3/21/09 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsaiko.livejournal.com
We came up with the term during some animated movie. It rained and the main characters, who up to that point hated each other, suddenly loved each other. Insta-love! Just add water.

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Date: 3/22/09 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theotherdibbler.livejournal.com
Insta-love breakfast cereal? I've gotta drabble that sometime. :)

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Date: 3/21/09 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] escagirluk.livejournal.com
Awws. If you write this (writeitwriteitwriteit) it would be so adorable and awesome and mushy romance-ness.

Also, insta-love, so not possible. It's cutesy to think about, but really, not love. More like "Hormones: HOTTY APPROACHING! MAN THE PENIS! *broing*" Insta-lust confused as insta-love.

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Date: 3/21/09 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsaiko.livejournal.com
MAN THE PENIS! FULL SEMEN AHEAD!

LOL.

Agreeing with everyone

Date: 3/21/09 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charisstoma.livejournal.com
This you need to write.

Am thinking that all those people who say love at first sight are indeed in lust at first sight. But then my former in-laws did the love at first sight on his part and they were married til he died recently at 80+. *shrugs* Maybe lust at first sight works as the intro to the real thing.

Re: Agreeing with everyone

Date: 3/21/09 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsaiko.livejournal.com
My grandparents had love at first sight. They met at a party. My grandmother was 17 and my grandfather was dating another girl. When my grandmother saw him across the room, she leaned over to her friend and said "That's the man I'm going to marry." He wrote my grandmother's number on the back of a picture of his girlfriend. They married less than a month later before my grandfather went to WWII. My grandmother lied about her age so that they could get married without her parent's approval. They were married for over 50 years before my grandmother passed away.

I'm not saying it's not possible. I just wish authors wouldn't force it or make it seem so ridiculous.

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Date: 3/21/09 11:08 pm (UTC)

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Date: 3/21/09 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayay.livejournal.com
Quite a few of the insta-sex plots are due to limited space, especially one shots, and there are those that want to get right down to the nitty gritty. I admit I like some of those, and love at first sight can be charming, but it's also nice to have the more developed and believable stories as well. This is not to be confusing with realistic, as I find your Kay and Lewis dream a believable tale for why someone would feel such a insta-attraction for an apparent stranger, which could of course lead to insta-sex!Lust/ love at first sight leading to happily ever after is rather overdone.

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Date: 3/21/09 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsaiko.livejournal.com
While I understand the limited space, I also know that you can write romance in a short story without it being forced. Anne McCaffery does it very well, even in short stories where the romance is a secondary plot to the sci-fi. I've read several romance novelists who also manage it in a limited word space.

I'm not against the love at first sight plot line. What I'm against is the feeling that the authors are slapping together a relationship using spit and super glue. Even in a short story, I want to read about people, not characters with all the depth of a parking lot puddle.

Although even I will admit that my dream turn into noting more than badly written "twue lurv." But I would hope, if I ever wrote it, I could at least do more than a half-assed job with it.

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Date: 3/22/09 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pichi.livejournal.com
I want to see you write this too. Your version sounds interesting.

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Date: 3/22/09 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiyoshi-chan.livejournal.com
SOL?

Awwwwwwwwww, Lewis and Kay are so cute.

I get really twitchy when I read instant-love-love type of story these days. I prefer slow-developing relationships these days. (Am I getting old?! :P)

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Date: 3/22/09 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theotherdibbler.livejournal.com
Man I love your dreams :D

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Date: 3/22/09 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsu-chan55.livejournal.com
That sounds like an amazing dream XD I would totally read that, insta-love or not ;)

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